In this episode, Ryan Glick is joined by Chris Lehman, co-founder and policy architect at Groma, to explore how blockchain and real estate are coming together. Chris shares his journey from policy and tech to real estate, and how that led to co-founding Groma, a company bringing a new model to the market by combining real estate operations with tokenized financial tools.
We learn about Groma’s approach to investing in small multifamily properties, why these assets have been overlooked by institutions, and how tech-driven property management helps them operate more efficiently. Chris explains how Groma tokenizes shares of its real estate investment trust (REIT), enabling fractional ownership and participation from everyday renters and investors.
A major part of the discussion centers around “rentvesting”, a new program that allows renters to build equity just by paying their rent. Chris breaks down how this model works and why it has the potential to shift the renter experience without requiring major lifestyle changes.
The conversation wraps up with thoughts on the future of real estate and regulation, including recent developments like the Genius Act and Clarity Act. Chris shares what developers need to know about tokenization, what might change first, and how new financing tools could reshape the industry.
Ryan sits down with Peter Murphy Lewis to talk about how storytelling can help developers and builders attract better talent and build stronger teams. They break down simple, practical ways to use video and real stories to stand out in today’s labor market.
Keith Miller joins the show to talk about his focus on building attainably priced homes at scale in Montana, why he’s using factory-built housing, and what it really takes to bring new supply to fast-growing markets.
Ryan and Charles break down falling homebuyer demand, a heated TikTok debate on millennial housing choices, a proposed property tax hike in New York City, and what a shrinking U.S. population could mean for developers.